On the Record: Medical marijuana

In this edition of On the Record, WRAL New's Chris Lovingood spoke with state senator Paul Lowe, D-Nash County, and Josh Biddix, a veteran and advocate for medical marijuana's legalization, about it's stigma, the benefits of medical marijuana and what challenges the bill leaglizing it in the state face.
Posted 2/5/2023, 2:42:26 AM Updated 2/5/2023, 1:58:05 PM

>> MARIJUANA, WE NEED DOUBLES

LETTERS.

>> NO MATTER WHAT YOU CALL IT,

EAGLE IN NORTH CAROLINA, NOT

EVEN FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES.

THIS IS WHAT THE FIGHT TO

LEGALIZE MEDICINAL USE. LOOK

LIKE 8 MONTHS

WILLING ALL I WANT FOR ANY

ARGUMENT AGAINST THAT. THE

PUBLIC HEALTH RISK FOR A MERE

AND DRUG ABUSE AND ADDICTION.

CHANGES IN BRAIN FUNCTION,

LEGALIZING MEDICINAL MARIJUANA

MIGHT HAVE A BETTER CHANCE THIS

YEAR. LET'S TALK ABOUT WHY WITH

A RECORD.

>> AS YOU JOIN ME FOR THIS

EPISODE OF ON THE RECORD, I'M

CHRIS LOVINGOOD. BUT MARIJUANA

IS AGAIN BEING DISCUSSED AMONG

STATE LAWMAKERS AS IT WAS LAST

YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE.

AND SO ONE MANAGING PAIN IS ONE

OF THE MOST COMMON USES FOR

PEOPLE USING MEDICINAL

MARIJUANA. BUT THERE ARE OTHER

REASONS PEOPLE TURN TO IT,

INCLUDING POST TRAUMATIC STRESS

DISORDER WILL HEAR FROM A

VETERAN ABOUT THAT JUST A BIT.

BUT FIRST, I WANT TO START WITH

DEMOCRATIC STATE SENATOR PAUL

LOWE CENTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR JOINING THIS IS THANK YOU.

A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. YOU

INTRODUCED SENATE BILL 3, AKA

THE NC COMPASSIONATE CARE ACT

TO LEGALIZE MEDICINAL

MARIJUANA. SO FIRST LAY OF THE

LAND FOR ME. WHAT EXACTLY DOES

THIS BILL DO?

THIS BILL PROVIDES AN

OPPORTUNITY TO HELP SOME FOLKS

IN NORTH CAROLINA. THAT'S

ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO

DO WITH THIS BILL.

>> WE HAVE

LOOKED AT MARIJUANA AND ITS

MEDICAL USE AND OTHER STATES.

>> AND WHEN WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT

IT, WE BEGAN TO SAY, HEY, IT

CAN HELP SOME FOLKS AND OUR

STATE AS WELL. I KNOW ABOUT

THE STIGMA OF IT. BUT IF IT

CAN HELP SOMEONE THROUGH

VARIOUS WITH VARIOUS CONDITIONS

WITH VARIOUS MEDICAL PROBLEMS.

WE NEED TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE

FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR STATE.

WE'RE GOING TO THE STIGMA IN

JUST A BIT. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS

IS A CONVERSATION THAT HAS BEEN

HAD AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR

YEARS. AND I'M WONDERING WHAT

IS THE LIKELIHOOD THIS TIME

THIS TIME WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE

MEDICINAL MARIJUANA LEGALIZED

NORTH CAROLINA. WELL, I THINK

BOTH CHAMBERS.

DELIBERATED OVER IT AND TALKED

ABOUT IT IN. THOROUGHLY VETTED.

AND NOW IT'S THE TIME FOR US

TO MAKE THIS PRODUCT AVAILABLE

FOR THOSE THAT MAY NEED IN OUR

STATE ESSENTIAL SOME POINT A

LITTLE BIT AGO. BUT ELABORATE,

YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS SOMETHING

IT NEEDS TO BE LEGALIZED?

AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE

HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT SAY IT

HELPS THEM WHEN IT COMES TO

MANAGING PAIN

>> IT HELPS THEM WITH CERTAIN

OTHER CONDITIONS AS WELL.

BUT WHAT'S YOUR PUSH? WHAT'S

YOUR YOUR YOUR WAY TO ADDRESS?

PEOPLE SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO

HAVE THIS LEGAL GUYS? WELL, ONE

OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL DID

LOOK AT EASE PAIN MANAGEMENT

WE LOOKED AT CANCER ONE OF THE

BILL SPONSORS AS A CANCER

SURVIVOR

AND IT HE'S HELPED PERSONS DEAL

WITH PAIN. MANY OF US FEEL LIKE

IT'S FAR SAFER. THEN THE OPIATE

AND WE KNOW ABOUT THE OPIATE

PROBLEM. ALL ACROSS THE

COUNTRY. AND EVEN IN THIS

STATE. SO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT

OTHER STATES HAVE CONSIDERED IT

AND HAVE IT.

LEGALIZED IT FOR MEDICAL USE

AND WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD

THING FOR MEDICAL USE HERE IN

NORTH CAROLINA, A NORTH

CAROLINA IS ONE OF 13 STATES

WHERE MEDICINAL USE IS NOT

LEGAL. YOU KNOW, THIS IS

SOMETHING OF COURSE, THAT

PEOPLE CONTINUE TO WATCH TO SEE

WHAT WILL THE STATE DO. SO

HOUSE SPEAKER TIM MOORE, IT

SAID, QUOTE, THERE IS SOME

SUPPORT FOR RICK FIRST,

SOMETHING WHERE THERE'S DOCTORS

INVOLVED IN WHERE THERE'S TIGHT

CONTROLS AND PHARMACEUTICAL

INVOLVEMENT. NOW, WHEN YOU HEAR

THAT, HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU

THAT THE BILL COULD GO FURTHER?

BECAUSE I BELIEVE LAST YEAR

THINK YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT.

IT PASSED ON THE SENATE, BUT IT

DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT TO THE

HOUSE FLOOR. WELL, I THINK THAT

IT THAT ONE WILL BEGIN TO LOOK

AT THIS BILL. WE BEGIN TO LOOK

AT OTHER STATES AROUND THE

COUNTRY.

LEGALIZED CANNABIS FOR MEDICAL

USE. AND WHEN WE BEGIN TO LOOK

AT THAT, WE ALSO BEGIN TO LOOK

AT THE LAWS SURROUNDING IT TO

SEE WHAT WOULD BE BEST FOR OUR

STATE. AND AS YOU BEGIN TO LOOK

AT THE BILL.

WE WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE CREATED

A GOOD DEAL THAT WILL DO THE

THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY.

FOR OUR STATE AND TO MAKE

ACCESS FOR SOME OF THOSE THEY

NEEDED IN OUR STATE. NO.

WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD PERSONALLY

ABOUT THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST

LEGALIZING IT? MAYBE PEOPLE

SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS MAY LEAD

TO, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED

NEAR THAT HAPPENING. ONE, OF

COURSE, I'VE HEARD I HEARD SOME

OF EVERYTHING I LISTENED TO

SOME OF EVERYTHING AND ONE OF

THE THINGS THAT WE WE WE HAVE

TO LOOK AT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN

THEY LOOK AT MARIJUANA, THEY

THINK OF SOMEBODY SMOKING A

MARIJUANA CIGARETTE OR

SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

WHEN WE LOOK

AT OPIATES.

>> OPIATES

>> WE USE THEM ALMOST IN EVERY

AREA OF AN OPERATION. IF YOU

GET AN OPERATION, THEY PROBABLY

USED AN OPIATE TO DEAL WITH

THE PAINT.

>> AND IT'S STANDARD MEDICAL

PRACTICE TO USE SOME OF THOSE

OPIATES, WHICH ARE VERY

DANGEROUS.

VERY DANGEROUS, VERY ADDICTIVE.

BUT THE THINGS IT HAVE TO BE

USED FROM TIME TO TIME FOR

OPERATIONS FOR THE KINDS OF

MEDICAL PRACTICES.

>> MARIJUANA. DOES NOT HAVE

THE SAME PROBLEM. NOW, THAT'S

NOT TO SAY THAT ANY MEDICINE

HAS ITS PROBLEMS.

ANY MEDICATION, ALL OF THEM.

>> IF USED INCORRECTLY CAN BE

DANGEROUS. AND I WANT TO JUMP

OFF THAT POINT FOR A LITTLE BIT

BECAUSE IN THE SHOW OPENED, AS

WE HEARD FROM JERRY ROYAL WITH

THE NC FAMILY POLICY COUNCIL.

HE SAID, QUOTE, THE PUBLIC

HEALTH RISK ARE IMMENSE DRUG

ABUSE AND ADDICTION. AND THEN

HE WENT ON TO SAY WE DIDN'T

PLAY THE WHOLE THING, BUT HE

SAYS CHANGE IN BRAIN FUNCTION,

LUNG DISEASE, INTOXICATION, AND

IMPAIRED DRIVING. BUT SOME OF

MY LISTEN TO THAT GO. WELL, YOU

KNOW, ALCOHOL CAN LEAD TO YOU

DOING SOME OF THAT. THE

IMPAIRED DRIVING INTOXICATION

AND CETERA. AND THIS IS A

SUBSTANCE THAT PEOPLE MINUTE

I'M INES, A MARIJUANA USE.

THEY'RE SAYING IT HELPS THEM

WITH THEIR PAIN AND HELPS THEM

DEAL WITH WHAT THEY'RE GOING

THROUGH. PTSD. EPILEPSY, THINGS

LIKE THAT. YES,

EPILEPSY. THAT'S A GOOD ONE

TO BRING UP BECAUSE I THINK

THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE KNOWN

PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD TO DEAL

WITH EPILEPSY HAVE SEEN WHAT

THEY GO THROUGH AND IF THIS

IS SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP

THEM. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

CAN HELP SOME OF OUR CITIZENS.

I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

I THINK WE OWE IT TO OUR

CITIZENS TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE

IT'S BEING DONE IN OTHER STATES

AND THIS IS AND IF IT'S GOOD

ENOUGH FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER

STATES, I THINK IT'S GOOD

ENOUGH FOR OUR CITIZENS AS

WELL. AND THAT'S ONE POINT I'M

THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF

SOMEBODY IS DOCTOR SAYS, HEY,

YOU KNOW, YOU MAY WANT TO

CONSIDER IF THERE'S A WAY FOR

YOU TO ACCESS ADDITIONAL

MARIJUANA OBVIOUSLY CAN'T DO

THAT HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA.

BUT

>> IF YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE

SAYING, YES, IT'S HELPED ME.

IT HELPED ME DEAL WITH IT.

SOME PEOPLE MAY ARGUE WHY DON'T

YOU GIVE PEOPLE THE CHOICE TO

DO WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR THEM

TO HELP THEM DEAL WITH WHATEVER

CONDITION THAT THEY'RE DOING

WITH.

THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY

ARGUMENTS. I THINK THAT'S

SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK

AT IN THIS STATE. AND WE HAVE

TO LOOK AT FOR THE BETTERMENT

OF OUR CITIZENS. THEY'VE BEEN

WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE.

I WONDER WHAT WHAT STORIES HAVE

YOU HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT COME

AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU DO

WHATEVER YOU CAN TO MAKE I

HEARD ONE THIS MORNING. I HAVE

I'M HEARING THEM OVER AND OVER.

>> AND OVER AGAIN AND CERTAINLY

I HERE HEAR THIS A LOT FROM

VETERANS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH

A LOT TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.

AND IF THIS WILL HELP THEM, WE

NEED TO HELP OUR VETERANS AND

SOMETHING GOOD THAT YOU

CONTINUE TO WORK ON AND WE'LL

SEE IF IT ACTUALLY DOES THE IF

IT'S ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED THIS

YEAR. AND YOU MENTION A

VETERAN, WHICH IS THE PERFECT

JUMPING-OFF POINT BECAUSE AS WE

EXPLORE WHERE THE EFFORT TO

LEGALIZE MEDICAL MARIJUANA IS

HEADED.

>> WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM

SOMEONE A VETERAN WHO HAS BEEN

ADVOCATING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

WE'LL TALK WITH HIM ON THE

THANKS FOR STAYING WITH US.

WE'RE GOING TO REENTER THE

CONVERSATION ABOUT MEDICAL

MARIJUANA. BUT FROM THE

PERSPECTIVE FROM SOMEONE WHO

HAS ADVOCATED FOR JOSH BENNETT

JOINS ME NOW VIA ZOOM. HE LIVES

IN SHELBY IN CLEVELAND COUNTY.

HE'S AN IRAQ WAR VETERAN WHO

SPENT 6 YEARS IN THE MARINE

CORPS WAS A POLICE OFFICER FOR

10 YEARS. JOSH, THANK YOU SO

MUCH FOR JOINING ME TODAY.

THANK YOU, CHRIS. SO, JOSH,

YOU'VE DEALT WITH PTSD AND PACK

PAIN. CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT

HOW BAD WERE THE CONDITION

WHERE YOU FELT THAT YOU GOT TO

THE POINT WE NEED TO START

ADVOCATING FOR LEGALIZING

MEDICINAL MARIJUANA.

>> WELL, IT WAS A SLOW PROCESS

FOR ME OF IT COMING TO RETIRE.

A LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU KNOW,

THE FOLLOWING COUPLE YEARS AS

WELL. A LOT OF THAT REALLY

SHOWED UP FOR ME

GETTING INTO THE BA. HE'S, YOU

KNOW, THE VA SYSTEM.

AND BOUNCING AROUND THAT WHEN

YOU'RE ALL JUST STUNNED.

YOU KNOW, THE PAIN MANAGEMENT

CLINIC THAT TOUCHED OFF.

AND DEFINITELY HAD SOME SOME

TOTALS THAT WORKED.

BUT YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF

ISSUES THAT WERE, YOU KNOW,

IMPACTED.

AFTER DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH

HELPING OTHERS OTHER

FORMER, YOU KNOW, FIRST

RESPONDERS, POLICE OFFICERS.

I DECIDED TO START

INCORPORATING IT. YOU KNOW, AS

NEEDED BASIS WITH. SEVERE PAIN

FLARE YOU KNOW, WITH WITH ME,

I'VE GOT NUMEROUS HERNIATED

THIS SPINAL STENOSIS.

IT. SO THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE

THAN THAT.

THAT PLAYS INTO THE, YOU KNOW,

THE CAREER I HAD THE THE THING

16 YEARS OF. TOSS THE STRESS

DEALING WITH RACK LAW

ENFORCEMENT, STREET STREET

LEVEL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> YOU KNOW, JUST WE TALK TO

YOU A WHILE BACK AND AT THE

TIME YET INDICATED THAT YOU ARE

ON 23, DIFFERENT MEDICATIONS AT

ONE POINT JUST TO DEAL WITH

SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WERE

JUST TALKING ABOUT. ANY

IMPROVEMENT SINCE THAT TIME.

WE LAST TALKED.

>> OH,

AND I REALLY DIDN'T EVEN

REALIZE THAT HAVE BEEN

DESCRIBED THAT MUCH, THOUGH.

THE VA HAS A SYSTEM. ARE YOU

GOING TO, YOU KNOW?

RE? WHAT ARE YOUR MEDICATIONS,

THAT TYPE STUFF AND THEN MY

WIFE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE.

BUT HOLY COW. THIS IS 23

DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, THINGS

THAT. I GUESS THAT WAS PROBABLY

37, 38 YEARS OLD.

IT. BUT NOW, YOU KNOW,

DEFINITIONS INCORPORATING IT

ALONG WITH ALL THAT, YOU KNOW,

THE PAIN MANAGEMENT, THE

PSYCHOTHERAPY SIDE OF THAT

IS DEFINITELY WELL AT THIS

POINT. YOU SAID YOU'VE GOT SOME

NEW TOOLS THAT HAS HELPED YOU

THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

>> SO HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE

LATEST VERSION OF THE NC

COMPASSIONATE CARE ACT?

YES, THAT SO WHAT DO YOU THINK

ABOUT IT? ANYTHING THAT NEEDS

TO BE CHANGED ADDED ANYTHING

THAT SORT.

>> LOOKING AT AS FAR AS

CONDITIONS THAT QUALIFY.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH IT A LOT

OF THE KEY ONES. E I UNDERSTAND

SOME OF THE I GUESS THE

QUESTION SURROUNDING THE

CHRONIC PAIN TYPE

QUALIFICATION. I THINK THERE'S

WAYS AROUND THAT WITH, YOU

KNOW, AT THIS EVIDENCE YOU

KNOW, IMAGING DIAGNOSTICS, THAT

TYPE STUFF, YOU KNOW, MRIS,

X-RAYS, A LOT OF THAT TYPE

STUFF ARE GOING TO CONFIRM

THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSON. IT'S

GOING TO HAVE CONTINUOUS I

THINK.

SEVERAL PEOPLE. THAT HAVE USED

IT FOR INSOMNIA. YOU KNOW,

THAT'S ANOTHER VERY THING

COURSE IN SONG AS A SIDE EFFECT

OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT MAY

THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS LIKE

THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THEY LIKE

UNDER THE POST TRAUMATIC STRESS

THAT THEY'VE INCLUDED.

HAMMER, YOU KNOW, FIRST BISHOP

ROSS, THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL LAW

ENFORCEMENT THAT HAVE REACHED

OUT TO ME AND TALK ABOUT IT.

AND THAT'S SAYING, YOU KNOW,

BENEFIT. YOU KNOW, THE U.S. AND

AGAIN, THIS IS THAT AS NEEDED

BY SUSSEX AND MEDICAL

APPLICATIONS. NOT TALKING ABOUT

YOU KNOW.

HEAVY DAILY USE THAT TYPE.

SO THAT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON

THE INDIVIDUAL

>> HELPING THEM DEAL WITH,

ESPECIALLY WITH WORKING ON A

HIGH STRESS SITUATION. IN YOUR

CASE, YOU KNOW, YOUR MILITARY

AND YOUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN

TERMS OF UNCERTAINTY FROM

PEOPLE ABOUT LEGALIZING FOR

MEDICINAL USE, THE NATIONAL

INSTITUTE OF HEALTH OF A

REFERENCE TO STUDY WERE ABOUT

50% OF PATIENTS WITH CANNABIS

PSYCHOSIS, CONVERTED TO

SCHIZOPHRENIA OR BIPOLAR

DISORDER. AND ONE IN TREE.

THAT'S ON THE JOURNAL OF

PSYCHIATRY PSYCHIATRY AND

NEUROSCIENCE SAYS THERE'S STILL

A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED

AT WHEN IT COMES TO TREATING

PTSD AND OTHER CONDITIONS.

BUT AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY

IT WORKS.

>> YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE

AWARE THAT THOSE ISSUES CAN

CAN COME ABOUT. I KNOW THAT,

YOU KNOW, SOME TEMPORARY

PSYCHOSIS IS DUE TO THE DOSING

AMOUNT. THAT IS WHERE, YOU

KNOW, A STRICT MEDICAL

CONTROLLED.

PROGRAM WHERE YOU HAVE A

POSITION INVOLVED. YOU HAVE A

FORM SAYS INVOLVED OF THEY'RE

THE DISPENSARIES. ARE THAT'S

GOING TO BE HUGE OWN, YOU KNOW,

KIND OF BALANCING OUT. THAT'S

JUST A STATISTIC. I KNOW YOU,

YOU KNOW, RESEARCH AND THE U.S.

HAS BEEN VERY LIMITED. DUE TO

THE IT WILL GET OUT OF THE OF

THE FEDERAL LEVEL WITH THE FDA

AND APPLICATIONS.

AND IT IS REAL, YOU KNOW, HAS

BEEN A A HUGE PROPONENT.

A LOT OF PROMISING STUDIES THAT

COME FROM. THEY ARE ESPECIALLY

WITH.

PUSH DRAMATIC TYPE STUFF WITH,

OF COURSE, WHAT THEIR CHURCH

GOT. THE SURE.

>> YOU KNOW, YOU TOUCHED A

LITTLE BIT ON THE RESEARCH

ASPECT OF EVEN WHEN I WAS

LOOKING INTO THIS DOING MY OWN

RESEARCH INTO IT. YOU KNOW,

THERE WERE THERE'S LIMITED

STUDIES THEY HAVE TO IN TERMS

OF THE EFFICACY OF ACTUALLY

USING MEDICINAL MARIJUANA TO

HELP WITH PTSD AND OTHER

CONDITIONS. WHAT DO YOU THINK

NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE UNITED

STATES TO MAYBE INCREASE THE

NUMBER OF STUDIES THAT ARE

BEING DONE, MAYBE GET MORE

PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO

PARTICIPATE IN STUDIES.

>> I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY

PLENTY OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW,

WILLING TO PARTICIPATE,

ESPECIALLY AS

THE YOU KNOW, THE BIG THING

WITH CANNABIS WAS SAYING IS

IT'S A THE HAS ORIGINATED FROM,

YOU KNOW, THE THE MARIJUANA

MADNESS AGE.

SO A LOT OF BREAKING THAT

STAYING WITH THEIR STAPLE.

THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO,

YOU KNOW, WILL PARTICIPATE IN

THESE TYPE STUDIES. BUT WHEN

IT'S CONTROLLED TO FDA, FDA AND

DEA REGULATION. YOU KNOW, IT'S

IT'S BEEN VERY TOUGH FOR WHAT

I'VE SEEN AND READ FROM, YOU

KNOW, UNIVERSITY'S RESEARCH

FACILITIES TO. TO BE ABLE TO

DO, YOU KNOW?

TRUE MEDICAL ALL YOU SEE IS

NEGATIVES COMING OUT BASED OFF

OF. YOU KNOW, STATISTICS ARE

OVERDOSED. STATISTICS THAT TYPE

OF STUFF. BUT THERE'S NOT

REALLY BEEN A LOT THAT I'VE

SEEN.

IN THE UNITED STATES, THE

SPORES, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU

SAID, THE EFFICACY AND THE

BENEFIT.

>> NOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE

LEGALITY OF ALL MARIJUANA STILL

IS A SCHEDULE. ONE DRUG, BUT

WE DO KNOW THAT LAST YEAR THE

MORE ACT OR THE MARIJUANA

OPPORTUNITY REINVESTMENT AND

EXPUNGEMENT ACT WAS PASSED IN

THE U.S. HOUSE BUT WOULD STILL

NEED TO GO FURTHER TO

DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA BY

REMOVING IT FROM THE LIST OF

SCHEDULED SUBSTANCES. DO YOU

THINK IT MEANS THAT NEEDS TO

HAPPEN? IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED

FROM THAT SCHEDULE IS FOR MAYBE

THIS TO GO FORWARD SO THAT THE

LEGALITY PART OF IT ISN'T

REALLY MUCH AN ISSUE.

>> YEAH, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW,

THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO I THINK

THAT THEY DO IS GO AHEAD AND

MOVE IT TO.

YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE AND MEANS

NO MEDICINAL BY AT THE FEDERAL

LEVEL.

IT DEFINITELY IS THE

RESCHEDULED OR THEY'VE BEEN

THEY CRIMINALIZE, I GUESS AT

THAT LEVEL AND PUT IT BACK TO

THE STATES TO MAKE THEIR OWN

DECISION.

OF COURSE, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY

I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAVE

TO HAPPEN. AS WELL AS I THINK

IT'S GOING TO BE BIG FOR THE

SAFE BANKING ACT. THAT'S BEEN

YOU KNOW, A CELL PHONE OF HIM

COMING HERE. CBD EVEN BANKING

FOR US HAS BEEN A THERE'S THERE

ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE

GOING HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE

CAN GET INTO.

A LOT OF THE OPEN RESEARCH AND

WAYS TO ACCESS. I GUESS YOU

WOULD SAY IT.

>> SO, JOSH, IF YOU COULD

DIRECTLY ADDRESS STATE

LEGISLATURE'S ARE NOT ON BOARD

WITH THIS ABOUT LEGALIZING

MEDICINAL MARIJUANA, WOULD YOU

SAY TO THEM?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE POLLS

THAT WE'VE

WERE UPWARDS OF, YOU KNOW, THE

LOW 90% RANGE OF SUPPORT.

AMONG NORTH CAROLINIANS.

AND THAT'S EVEN IN THE MOST

CONSERVATIVE DISTRICTS.

YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE

HAD A COUPLE.

REPRESENTATIVES. THEY'VE BEEN

ONE OF MY DIRECT

REPRESENTATIVES THAT REFUSES TO

EVEN SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS THE

TOPIC. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND

WHY.

YOU KNOW, WITH BOSTON VERY

REPUTABLE, YOU KNOW, FOLKS UP

THERE TO ADVOCATE AND THIS I'VE

GOT A COUPLE GUYS FROM CLAYTON

COUNTY, A FORMER GREEN ANOTHER

FORMER RETIRED.

MILITARY SLASH STATE TROOPER.

AND WE WILL BE COMING WITH US.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE THEY

WANT TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN

OPEN MIND AND LEE.

AND LISTEN TO THE BENEFITS OF

THOSE A BUS I'VE SEEN FROM IT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IF I DON'T,

IT'S JUST.

SHAME WHEN IT WAS KIND OF A

SHAME ON THEM. I THINK FOR ME,

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY

HAS THEIR PERSONAL BASIS FOR

THAT. THERE'S PLENTY OF SUPPORT

OUT AMONG CONSTITUENTS THAT,

YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE AN

ISSUE FOR HIM. LIKE YOU SAID,

THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR

IT IN THE BIG QUESTION FOR

PEOPLE SUCH AS JOSH BENNETT.

>> WHO WANT MEDICINAL MARIJUANA

LEGALIZED? WHAT'S NEXT? WE'RE

GOING TO TOUCH ON THAT. BUT

ALSO TALK ABOUT A GROUP OF

PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAKE IN

THANKS FOR STAYING WITH US ON

THE RECORD. AS WE DISCUSS

MEDICINAL MARIJUANA. I WANT TO

BRING BACK SENATOR TO TALK

ABOUT WHAT'S NEXT IN THE

PROCESS FOR OUR STATE. SO WHAT

ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE NC

COMPASSIONATE CARE ACT? WELL,

LIKE ALL BILLS IS GOING TO HAVE

TO GO A SERIES OF COMMITTEES.

I'M AND COMMITTEE HEARINGS.

WHAT I THINK WILL MAKE THIS

A LITTLE BIT EASIER IS IT'S

ALREADY BEEN TO THOSE

COMMITTEES ONCE SO BASICALLY

ESSENTIALLY HAVING THE SAME

THING. GO BACK THROUGH SOME OF

THOSE COMMITTEES BEFORE IT GOES

TO THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND

THEN WILL BE SENT OVER TO THE

HOUSE. YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT

AGO WE WERE TALKING TO JOSH

THAT A MILITARY VETERAN.

YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, HE

WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE A

LITTLE MORE EMPHASIS ON SOME

OTHER CONDITIONS ADDED INTO

THAT PARTICULAR ACT. AND SO I

WONDER WHAT KIND OF OTHER

FEEDBACK HAVE YOU RECEIVED FROM

PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS, THESE TO

BE ADDED OR CHANGED WE KNOW

THAT THERE'S GOING TO NEED TO

BE SOME TWEAKING FOR LACK OF

A BETTER TERM. AND SOME THINGS.

ED.

THEY MAY NOT BE IN THE BILL

NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING

TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE

HAVE. AND ADJUSTMENTS I'M SURE

WILL BE MADE. YOU KNOW, AS THE

DEBT AS THE DAYS GO. YOU'VE GOT

THE BALL ROLLING. YOU'RE KIND

OF SEE WHAT COMES WITH IN THAT

REGARD. AS I WAS LOOKING FOR

MORE INFORMATION FOR THIS AND

SET HEMP FARMERS HAVE ALSO

EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT

MAYBE FEELING LEFT OUT OF THE

PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BILL.

NOT ABLE TO CAPITALIZE ON.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF THEM?

ONCE AGAIN, THERE'S LOTS OF

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MORE

TWEAKING AS WE MOVE FORWARD

WITH THIS BILL. I MEAN, THIS IS

GOING TO HAVE TO BE.

IT'S LIKE NO, BILL IS A PERFECT

BILL. BUT THIS IS GETTING OFF

TO A GOOD START. FOR US TO HAVE

MEDICAL MARIJUANA AVAILABLE

FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT NEED IT.

AND AS YOU WELL WORTH THAT

PROCESS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU

JUST KIND OF GET INTO STARTED.

WOULD YOU WELCOME HIM FARMERS

TO BE A PART OF THIS

CONVERSATION? HEAR FROM THEM

GETTING WHAT I'M ALREADY

HEARING SO I'M HEARING FROM

OKAY AND I APPRECIATE WHAT SO

MANY OF THEM HAVE TO ACT.

CHER. SO I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A

LOT ABOUT MEDICINAL USE, BUT

I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW.

LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, DO YOU

THINK THAT POSSIBLY ONE DAY

NORTH CAROLINA COULD VENTURE

INTO RECREATIONAL USE OF

MARIJUANA?

THAT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S BEAT?

MY BILL IS A MEDICAL MARIJUANA

BILL. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH

WHERE I'M GOING TO STAY

FOCUSED, BUT I'M SURE SOME

POINT SOMEONE RIGHT AND MOVE

FORWARD. A RECREATIONAL BILL.

YOU HAD MENTIONED YOU ANOTHER

STATE LAWMAKERS WHEN IT COMES

TO MEDICINAL MARIJUANA. YOU

HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER STATES,

YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE

DONE. THINGS IN THAT REGARD.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO

BE NORTH CAROLINA SPECIFIC TO

MAYBE GET MORE PEOPLE ON BOARD

TO SAY YES, WE NEED TO PASS

THIS BILL. I THINK THAT THE BIG

US ENDURANCE TO THIS BILL IS

THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO

MARIJUANA.

THAT'S MY OWN PER SMALL BOXES

WE NEED TO BE DONE TO ACTUALLY

REDUCE THAT STIGMA.

I MENTIONED MAYBE YOU'RE I

THINK LIKE LIKE ALL THINGS LIKE

THAT, EDUCATION. I THINK THAT

THEY'RE VERY, OF COURSE, THERE

ARE VARIOUS STUDIES THAT COME

OUT. BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL

WORK TO BE DONE. IT. SO WORK TO

BE DONE AND I GUESS MY QUESTION

IS THIS REALISTICALLY, I KNOW

THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE.

AND YOU SAID THIS YEAR, COULD

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