Ovies & Giglio: New B1G media deal puts ACC on the clock

Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio discuss how the new B1G media rights deal puts the ACC on the clock. Will the landscape stay the same or will there be another seismic shift in college conference realignment?
Posted 8/18/2022, 10:41:06 PM Updated 8/18/2022, 10:44:05 PM

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But the big news of the day as it relates

to us here in the triangle is the Big Ten's

new media deal that was officially announced this afternoon

I will admit it sounded really weird when I watched

the Cbs sizzle reel

This music starts to play

We all know this music when you hear this music

you think one thing and one thing only let's be

real Tennessee getting destroyed by Alabama

Right

Uncle Vern is about to pop on

Right

Here we go

Sec football time

But no I'm watching the sizzle reel

I'm getting Maryland highlights

Greg Siano pops up on my screen stuck down

Did they hurry guys get Northwestern in there Did they

forget north west No there's Northwestern

At the end of the clip there's Northwestern with a

player doing a salute

I'm sure that warm jim Philip's heart

Right

So it was it was a little off putting to

hear that music with Big 10 highlights associated with it

But that's what we're going to get going forward

It's a billion dollar deal with that spread all spread

across three different broadcast networks

Fox who will have their big noon saturday 12 o'clock

a brilliant marketing strategy to put those games right out

of the gate

And why noone football while fans might hate it Television

loves it

CBS will get the 3 30 window

NBC gets the evening game at seven o'clock again

I cannot stress this enough

A billion dollars

This starts in 2023 U

C

L

A

And Southern cal are going to join the Big 10

I believe in 2024

And it runs for seven years which to me is

the most important part of this deal

Why Well The Big 10 has been really strategic with

the length of their media deals for two reasons

The first one is it allows them to be flexible

and take advantage of the market conditions meaning that they

already have a negotiation floor based on what other conferences

are doing

The other part is oh is there now a need

at a network that just lost big time college football

looking at U

C

B

S

Well we can now fill that need and that's exactly

what they did with CBS who's paying more for that

3 30 window than they did with the sec previously

It's kind of funny right You're thinking yourself seriously the

second tier Big 10 game is more valuable now than

it was for the sec

Well I'm sure the sec would have gotten more money

if they had stuck around with CBS but they decided

to put all their eggs in one basket with ESPN

so they can control everything with one network

And I don't know I just don't mean college football

windows on television

When I say control everything

They also wanted to control the talking points and they

understand that while CBS has college football and Fox has

their college football and NBC is going to be on

board

Who causes the conversation

Who directs the conversation when it comes to national college

football E

S

P

N

And they're gonna have a media rights partner now that

clearly has a vested interest in promoting sec football all

the time

Don't forget they're adding Oklahoma to yes again these these

conferences the Big 10 the sec they made the right

choices in the schools that they decided to add

That's where the money is

You can do it the one way like you said

the sec hey we're going to ESPN we're gonna bundle

this thing together or you can split it up and

make the more money on the short term basis

I think for the Big 10 by those smaller contracts

those are smart because this this contract and the move

to add U C L A and U S C

Is a direct result of texas and Oklahoma

Move by the sec

Same for Notre dame

You know Notre dame is re ups at the right

time because cbs not being involved not having the sec

puts a little bit of pressure on NBC to say

hey we can't just we can't just lowball you and

just think we're gonna re up with you just because

we've had a longstanding relationship particularly when CBS is out

there works out for Notre Dame works out for NBC

NBC

Now getting this Big 10 programming shoulder programming as they

like to say these are the kind of teams that

are like Notre dame let's be honest

You know if it's it's the third choice right So

you're gonna be talking well again I don't even think

you know Purdue michigan state Wisconsin Iowa Illinois

These are all schools that if you're if you're inclined

to watch Notre dame at three or vice versa you're

gonna watch the leading or the or the after about

taking advantage of the market conditions that also involves playing

the conference realignment came right we bring up U

C

L

A

In southern cal well because of the shorter television contract

window they timed it and we talked about this five

or six years ago when the original deal went through

for the big 10 they positioned themselves for other grant

of rights and other television deals to run out

They timed it perfectly with the pac 12 and when

they're coming around to hey look we're gonna we're gonna

make a billion dollars a year

Hey U

C

L

A

Southern cal you you wanna help us out with this

Alright cool

Let's do it

So we should we should note the fiscal year payout

for the big 10 in 21 which was down because

of some covid issues of course because they had floated

money to 20 I should clarify was 679 million

So they're about to jump from 679 million to one

billion that's significant

That is significant

So but but that's timing it's all the time and

not not being locked into a deal which gets us

which gets us to the seven year window

Alright the A

C

C

S

Grant of rights essentially

The thing that's keeping the conference together because it would

be it would ruin a school financially if they tried

to leave the conference right now because the media rights

that they would go and sign but we'll use north

Carolina is the example because I do think that north

Carolina is the linchpin in all of this

It's not Clemson it's not florida state

It's not Miami it is North Carolina which would be

attractive to the big 10 and the sec but specifically

the big 10 I think it aligns more with the

big 10 right now

If north Carolina wanted to leave the A

C

C

It would financially ruin them

They would sign with the big 10 and all the

money they make from that media rights deal goes where

back to the A

C

C

Back to the A

C

C

Now it would be financially beneficial for the rest of

the schools and the A

C

C

Like they were getting North Carolina's money spread across everybody

else

Cool

Right

But obviously north Carolina is not gonna do that assuming

that grant of rights holds up in a court of

law

Ah Well that gets to the second part

If North Carolina can get a block of schools to

challenge the grant of rights to say they can get

five different schools in the A

C

C

You have to get to eight

Okay in order to tear it up tear it up

tear it up

Let's see let's say that block of schools happened

But I would even argue that you can get five

to really test it

Not to rip up but to test test it

But I don't see that happening Yet at least

But now they have to be together

I would now now that we know that the big

10s meteorite steel last for seven years

It bugs me out to 2030 which is closer to

2036 math

You get to that point

You can start having conversations saying hey look we can

go about this two ways

We can put our financials on ice for the next

five years and try to or in this case they

will try to buy their way out

Or now that we're nearing the end we can get

more schools with us and things would break off

And that's why I say the A

C

C

Is officially on the clock

Now that we know what the deal is

It's no longer a matter of speculation we know what

the window is for the A

C

C

It's seven years probably shorter than that because these things

will probably start happening before the seven years is up

So let's go with five years

They've got five more years to figure something out financially

to keep the A

C

C

Together

Otherwise we're looking at another massive seismic shift in college

realignment If everything stays the same though I think things

will stay the same

I think things will stay the same because I don't

see where the I would like to bet against that

I don't know where the A

C

C

Is going to get the entire landscape right

Like when we had like you love to give me

a hard time about conversations that happened in 2004

Well you're not really remembering what it was like in

2003 and 2004

Right So what I'm saying to you is in seven

years are we sure And the biggest thing to bet

on here is is it still gonna be football And

I hate that I hate to say this and I'm

not saying this callously but football is a lot has

the football does have the potential to turn into boxing

It does

And what happened with boxing in the eighties was there

was a death in the ring and it doesn't take

a lot to get to that point and we don't

want to see that in football

Obviously no one wants to see that but it would

be it would be a fool's errand to say that

it couldn't happen that it's not within the realm of

possibility

And those are the things that you look at participation

levels in football particularly when you line up education levels

with participation levels in football and affluence and participation levels

in football and are are we are we gonna have

a supply of players in 10 years We're gonna have

the same or is it gonna be like we've seen

in the supply chain issues during the pandemic and post

pandemic years here

That's where I'm saying to you can we bet on

this that's also where I would say to you the

Big 10 is smart to say all right we're going

to the last two deals the big 10 have made

have been smart short window deals I'm saying to you

a lot can change in seven years holistically not just

hey what you're saying about tv you're absolutely right about

tv Because football is what sells that's what sells

Yeah

And and broadcast broadcast broadcast TV specifically and broadcast TV

is not gonna go anywhere anytime soon

And that's why football is getting the money that it's

getting right now from broadcast television

And again knock on wood as somebody who worked in

the newspaper business for 24 years I was just saying

in 2003 we probably could have said oh the newspaper

business is not going anywhere right

Sports talk radio business isn't going anywhere

Broadcast tv is not going anywhere

Sure

Sure

Sure sure sure

Yeah I'm not trying to be a contrarian I'm just

trying to point out that a lot can change

Yeah we don't know where I am and I'm with

you on that

Ultimately I do agree with you that you cannot predict

where the media landscape is going to be in the

next five years

Nobody could have predicted Tiktok right Nobody could predicted to

tuck essentially

We were like oh it's instagram Snapchat it's this it's

that

And all of a sudden here comes this app that

absolutely obliterates everybody else and now people are playing catch

up

Nobody could have predicted that five years ago and now

I'm the one like a dummy at the end of

the day watching cat videos on Tiktok with catchy little

songs

Are you the dummy or you entertained I am I

am entertained

There you go